Cale played his last show with the band at the in September 1968 and was fired shortly afterwards. According to Tim Mitchell, however, Morrison reported that while there was creative tension between Reed and Cale, its impact has been exaggerated over the years. It has often been reported that before Cale's departure (following White Light/White Heat) there was a struggle between his creative impulses and Reed's: Cale's experimentalist tendencies had contrasted with Reed's more conventional approach. Neither Morrison nor Tucker were happy with the idea, but faced with a choice of either no Cale or no band at all, the pair reluctantly sided with Reed. Reed called Morrison and Tucker to a meeting at the Riviera Cafe in the without Cale's knowledge, and informed them that Cale was out of the band when Morrison objected, Reed said it was either Cale was sacked or the Velvets were dissolved. Further, some songs the band had performed with Cale in concert, or that he had co-written, were not recorded until after he had left the group (such as 'Walk It and Talk It', 'Ride into the Sun', and 'Countess from Hong Kong').
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